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Re: Re: L'heure est aux actes
Frank HOUCK
Saturday, 12 April 2003


Hello all, Jean-Marc Flament,

I have thought long and hard before answering this listing by Jean-Marc Flament. Partly because I believe that he at least feels he is correct in his feeling and secondly because of the complexity of his claims.

At first I thought it was not appropriate to discuss this issue in the forum platform. Yet it seems that Jean-Marc Flament personal views and mine as different as they are, represent what in the end the WP will need to deal with.

To me Jean-Marc presents a view shrouded in historical comments, name calling, and do it my way or else.

The statements are totally one sided and disregards the complexity that surrounds all of the so called simple projections of truth. Do I think he is wrong? Honestly with all the rhetoric I really can't understand his point.

I clearly understand he does not like the United States.

What I find most interesting in Jean-Marc's statements is some kind of godly mystical belief that somehow the United States is responsible for the poverty of the world and that it is the United states responsibility to solve it, else we are bastards. Of course the rest of the world has no responsibility in this matter.

You suggest strongly that the lack of credibility and integrity of the elected officials all over the world are somehow the responsibility of the United States? Has it ever occurred to you that this so called power of the United states would not exist if those elected officials all over the world did not agree to it and use it?

There is now over 80% of the population of the United States in favor of the war. That is the people of our country not the government. Do you really think each one of us are going to get their own oil well? Do you really think The American public even care about oil? Trust me, not all the oil in the world is worth one American life.....

It might surprise you to know that with all the hype surrounding the Iraq War that few Americans actually feel it is about Iraq directly. I am not going to get into that discussion because if you understood I would not have to explain and if I had to explain you would not understand.

Americans understand that a small percentage of the Middle East feel that it is O.K. to kill people to further there opinion. That concept is accepted in a number of sovereign states in the East. It is clear to those of us that can think that the killing of innocent people will not stop until these small groups are eliminated. If that means removing the states that support them and encourage this kind of diplomacy then so be it.

9/11 was the beginning of the end for these groups, and what ever it takes the United states will end it.

It would be wise for people like Jean-Marc to recognize that it is the lack of understanding of these basic issues of self protection that is driving the American public to not only ignore European opinion, but to also considered Europe as part of the overall terrorist problem.

In the end the terrorist issue will be gone. The damage done to the UN and the worlds people I am afraid will not recover.

My goals in the WP is to seek solutions to issues such as this. I believe Jean-Marc that you are sincere.

I also believe you read too much and think too little. Solutions will be found in controlling our elected officials all over the world. Solutions will be found in understanding others opinions and working to create resolve for the issue not the ideology or history. Solutions will be found when we all understand we are the same, that we work for all the people.

We will find justice and harmony in the world when we finally learn that truth, justice, understanding, love and caring, are not the property of a few. But are on loan to all of us from the universe, less we take care to use them properly or loss all the promise we could achieve.

Like most Americans I am against war. To suggest that President Bush could create this war without the public opinion is more a demonstration of your lack of knowledge of the United States government and our people then of reality.

A third option to the UN resolutions that would have dealt with terrorism in a meaningful way, would have without doubt stopped that War. I blame the UN for that.

Its my belief in the strength of that third opinion, the other approach that keeps me with the WP Forum. I believe that a WP can reach universal agreement that, people should not kill people, That people should not be allowed to starve, That those in need should be afforded support and help, that Being alive is just the beginning of life and all should be afforded an opportunity to grow beyond themselves and make their lives better.

Jean-Marc this is just a thought. If in the call for consensus it was agreed that Iraq should be eliminated, would that be your opinion also? I don't think so. If that is the case, then how do you think your one sided view will ever gain resolve? If I am wrong in saying you have a one sided view, its because I don't see any other in what you have said. Maybe it is something you know that you feel should be understood.

With that said I respect your views and what you stand for, your approach is the only area in which I disagree with you. And feel it can only serve to stop communication and agreement not further it.

Best regards, Frank Houck


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