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Re: Guerre en Iraq
Frank HOUCK
Tuesday, 22 April 2003
Hello Jean-Marc , and All,
Bravo, if we were in the UN and making the decisions, I wonder what would
have happened.
I am almost dumb struck with your response. Preparing for an onslaught of
hype, there was none. (well, very little) yet, all had a basis of fact,
which I appreciate.
If you dropped the reference to oil, and the comparison of 9/11 against
definite civilians to the acts of targeted bombs if they could possibly be
related. Lets not go there, My understanding is that S.H. has killed
millions, with torture and imprisons children for not becoming soldiers.
Lets not try to balance the loss of life, but reason to end it forever. You
would have a publication that most Americans could read and listen to, maybe
even agree ;).
The Osama in hiding statement was an exaggeration and you know that. At best
he was a water boy at the time of the Russian conflict. And to my
understanding he was independent from the USA support to Afghanistan.
The thousands of Osama in Hidings that was to happen with the war in
Afghanistan did not happen. In fact we have had not one attack sense then.
That's not justification, it's observation. And as a bonus Pakistan is
moving towards normalization, and even targeting terrorism.
Many of us here in the states feel that there would be no more fighting in
Iraq if it weren't for the so called foreigners from Syria. One of the
terrorists capitals of the world.
What you said about our presidents and elections. You could also quote
Socrates, making the same exact statements, and you could along with the
United States add all the elected governments in the world. That happens to
be a problem with all democratic elections. Money talks, unfortunately. That
's why I feel an automatic impeachment process is mandatory if the will of
the people is not adhered to.
And please if you are going to reference past American presidents, JFK and
Carter are not good ones. Use Thomas Jefferson, By far the most humanitarian
president that ever existed in the world. And he was that before he was
elected. JFK is the only U.S. president that almost ended the entire world
in less then one minute. Yes, he was very likable, also very scary. And
Carter he was so weak you would think Iran was a world power. Many believe
he is responsible for the increase in terrorism and its escalation form
hijacking to bombing. Evidenced by the immediate release of the hostages
when Reagan was elected.
To our point. I have never been for the war with Iraq. Not even now as it is
turning out to be positive for different reasons. I have been simply against
doing nothing. And continuing what hasn't worked for twelve years is
nothing. If a universal power is to control the world it must be taken
seriously. If S. H. has demonstrated anything, he demonstrated he was going
to listen to no one. My feelings on this issue is that force should have
been stepped up in stages, until compliance was attained. That way hopefully
understanding war would come eventually there would be no need to go that
far. And the same should be for any country that lets organizations exist
within their territory that permits people to kill people. That is the real
issue here. Think during this war, a terrorist group killed innocent people
in Israel and called it a gift to Iraq? No one in the East was upset with
that, in fact they think it is normal. Happen much in Belgium?
That needs to stop in Iraq, Iran, Syria, Egypt where ever it exists. The UN
needs to be strong enough to do at least that. Knowing there will be
consequence will put an end to it. If the UN makes it clear it will not be
tolerated and acts when it has to, it will stop. And believe it or not it
will not need war. Just knowing it will happen will be enough.
It would appear I have not given you the credit you deserve. So you do
think. And clearly at that. Yet you still need to understand more about the
American public. Our internal government is not as powerful as you think. If
you pay attention to the news in the United States you will notice the
American public is at least as hard on corporate corruption as it is with
terrorism. As this issue becomes a national issue and impacts other
countries, that's were we can find a resolve with a WP and make a difference
together.
To go one step further I would say I probably think to much and read to
little ;).There has been a lot said that the United States needs to
understand why the Arabs are mad. I don't have to understand why any person
feels it is within their right to kill someone for their own gain. Believe
it or not I accepted their approach of hijackings when they didn't hurt
anyone. It made an impact, enforced their opinion, but no one was hurt.
Killing is to far, I will never accept it and feel what ever has to be done
to stop it is justified. But I don't believe that means go right to war, it
means do what you have to, to stop it.
The listing ** Procedure in 5 years for a WP ** Was insightful. But how does
a disagreement like ours work?
I think our goals are the same, how to make it work is still the question.
Jean-Marc I am German-Irish, a Vietnam veteran, the youngest of seven boys,
and the second generation in the United States. My family survived world war
one and world war two. I have now only two brothers. I know the meaning of
war.
Shame on the UN,
Frank Houck
WP21 Alliance Forum on a World Parliament for the 21st Century
E-mail : world-parl@forums.alliance21.org
Fax 1 717 264 5036
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